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		<title>By: baboonhead</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-9789</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm....Mel Gibson is NOT an Aussie, as you state. He is American born in Peekskill, NY. He spent his teenage years in Australia after his family moved there. It might make sense for you to get your facts straight, rather than posting something you don't have a clue about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm&#8230;.Mel Gibson is NOT an Aussie, as you state. He is American born in Peekskill, NY. He spent his teenage years in Australia after his family moved there. It might make sense for you to get your facts straight, rather than posting something you don&#8217;t have a clue about.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-9442</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Briton myself, I feel as though I have become very accustomed to various American dialects due to the large amounts of American media and programming that can easily be found in the U.K. . Furthermore, I feel as though many Americans struggle to comprehend the various English, (or indeed British,) accents due to the lack of British influences in popular culture. 
  
For example, in England the rules of baseball, basketball and other sports mainly associated with the USA are widely known, or at least there is some sort of knowledge as to how these games are played. I beleive I can estimate that not many Americans will be familiar with the rules of Cricket, Polo, etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Briton myself, I feel as though I have become very accustomed to various American dialects due to the large amounts of American media and programming that can easily be found in the U.K. . Furthermore, I feel as though many Americans struggle to comprehend the various English, (or indeed British,) accents due to the lack of British influences in popular culture. </p>
<p>For example, in England the rules of baseball, basketball and other sports mainly associated with the USA are widely known, or at least there is some sort of knowledge as to how these games are played. I beleive I can estimate that not many Americans will be familiar with the rules of Cricket, Polo, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-7397</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!!!

I come from Japanese and British heritage, live in St. Louis (which is neither the south, west, nor midwest - but a sort of "gateway"), and I have a typical Chicago accent, but say "y'all" and "you take care now" and "that's ow right" and all sorts of southern peculiarities; it's considered standard here - mixed in with a pretty enormous speaking vocabulary, occasional british intonations, and a little Philly / New York accent because I lived there for a year or so.  I also traveled to central america several times as a very young child, and the early exposure to Spanish language enables me to form a spanish accent with ease.

No one ever guesses the origins of my accent, of course, just as they look at me and say "are you egyptian?" or "you are from Italy, no?"  "Ah, a French lady!" (flench rady!)

No one guesses Japanese and British, for there aren't enough biracial people in the world these days for anyone to guess a combination, other than black&#38;white and asian&#38;black. Possibly "mexicasian," have heard that one before.

I have a lovely singing voice, and it's neither British nor American (they differ as well, of course).

I am reasonably attractive... 

but the polarity of my voice may be my biggest magnetic force, and certainly a redeeming quality for me.  It is melodic, dancing, and unnameable.

In response to those who spoke of "accent-merging" as with the movie stars, Mel Gibson, Hugh Laurie, Colin, Charlize Theron, and many of us hybrids - I think it's something not often considered - but like biracials tend to be exotic and beautiful, "biracial" voices also tend to be enrapturing.  I love Hugh Laurie's voice.  Another example of a merging voice I adore is Barack Obama's low, native African and American timbre.  It's lovely.</description>
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<p>I come from Japanese and British heritage, live in St. Louis (which is neither the south, west, nor midwest - but a sort of &#8220;gateway&#8221;), and I have a typical Chicago accent, but say &#8220;y&#8217;all&#8221; and &#8220;you take care now&#8221; and &#8220;that&#8217;s ow right&#8221; and all sorts of southern peculiarities; it&#8217;s considered standard here - mixed in with a pretty enormous speaking vocabulary, occasional british intonations, and a little Philly / New York accent because I lived there for a year or so.  I also traveled to central america several times as a very young child, and the early exposure to Spanish language enables me to form a spanish accent with ease.</p>
<p>No one ever guesses the origins of my accent, of course, just as they look at me and say &#8220;are you egyptian?&#8221; or &#8220;you are from Italy, no?&#8221;  &#8220;Ah, a French lady!&#8221; (flench rady!)</p>
<p>No one guesses Japanese and British, for there aren&#8217;t enough biracial people in the world these days for anyone to guess a combination, other than black&amp;white and asian&amp;black. Possibly &#8220;mexicasian,&#8221; have heard that one before.</p>
<p>I have a lovely singing voice, and it&#8217;s neither British nor American (they differ as well, of course).</p>
<p>I am reasonably attractive&#8230; </p>
<p>but the polarity of my voice may be my biggest magnetic force, and certainly a redeeming quality for me.  It is melodic, dancing, and unnameable.</p>
<p>In response to those who spoke of &#8220;accent-merging&#8221; as with the movie stars, Mel Gibson, Hugh Laurie, Colin, Charlize Theron, and many of us hybrids - I think it&#8217;s something not often considered - but like biracials tend to be exotic and beautiful, &#8220;biracial&#8221; voices also tend to be enrapturing.  I love Hugh Laurie&#8217;s voice.  Another example of a merging voice I adore is Barack Obama&#8217;s low, native African and American timbre.  It&#8217;s lovely.</p>
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		<title>By: lay</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-6382</link>
		<dc:creator>lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, someone actually has to say something stupid in a southern accent for me to think they're stupid. Such as: "Dude we got so ****** up last night!" That sounds stupid no matter what accent it is spoken with. 

Addressing other points brought up, when speaking in business situations person to person I lose my accent (as a result of speaking properly). In informal situation however I blend some of my words, leave off some endings and other shortcuts.

Its weird though that I have a stronger accent than anyone in my immediate family. Still I don't think I sound like I have a stereotypical Texas accent, which I imagine occurs somewhere between Dallas, Austin and Houston.

Does anyone know?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, someone actually has to say something stupid in a southern accent for me to think they&#8217;re stupid. Such as: &#8220;Dude we got so ****** up last night!&#8221; That sounds stupid no matter what accent it is spoken with. </p>
<p>Addressing other points brought up, when speaking in business situations person to person I lose my accent (as a result of speaking properly). In informal situation however I blend some of my words, leave off some endings and other shortcuts.</p>
<p>Its weird though that I have a stronger accent than anyone in my immediate family. Still I don&#8217;t think I sound like I have a stereotypical Texas accent, which I imagine occurs somewhere between Dallas, Austin and Houston.</p>
<p>Does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: biomedstudent</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>biomedstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I told my dad that he sounds like an ape. But then he says that I actually sound weird to him. That's actually crazy since we live under the same house. Although, my dad has worked at GM for about 30 years; and most of the workers there have southern accents. So he says that's where it comes from. 

On my side, most of my friends are actually surrounded by a higher social class - up in ohio. So, that pretty much explains that.

P.S.  jjk  - of course I made a grammatical error - but the internet can be informal and often times - not everyone is free of error. So don't take life so seriously, you'll never get out alive! Besides, if you spoke to me in person, you'd understand. Rock Out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I told my dad that he sounds like an ape. But then he says that I actually sound weird to him. That&#8217;s actually crazy since we live under the same house. Although, my dad has worked at GM for about 30 years; and most of the workers there have southern accents. So he says that&#8217;s where it comes from. </p>
<p>On my side, most of my friends are actually surrounded by a higher social class - up in ohio. So, that pretty much explains that.</p>
<p>P.S.  jjk  - of course I made a grammatical error - but the internet can be informal and often times - not everyone is free of error. So don&#8217;t take life so seriously, you&#8217;ll never get out alive! Besides, if you spoke to me in person, you&#8217;d understand. Rock Out</p>
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		<title>By: paulcook</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1507</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"My father has a southern accent - in fact, I view men with those accents are a bunch of dumb rambling apes" -- uh, does he know this?

But it is interesting, as you point out in the case of girlfriend, that slight variations in accents, or even who speaks them, can greatly change how they sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My father has a southern accent - in fact, I view men with those accents are a bunch of dumb rambling apes&#8221; &#8212; uh, does he know this?</p>
<p>But it is interesting, as you point out in the case of girlfriend, that slight variations in accents, or even who speaks them, can greatly change how they sound.</p>
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		<title>By: jjk</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1506</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biomedstudent, you're going to "through" yourself off a bridge? I'm glad you speak proper English, because for a second there I thought you made a mistake and meant "throw" yourself off a bridge.

It looks like an accent isn't the only way to give someone the impression you don't have a great control of the English language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biomedstudent, you&#8217;re going to &#8220;through&#8221; yourself off a bridge? I&#8217;m glad you speak proper English, because for a second there I thought you made a mistake and meant &#8220;throw&#8221; yourself off a bridge.</p>
<p>It looks like an accent isn&#8217;t the only way to give someone the impression you don&#8217;t have a great control of the English language.</p>
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		<title>By: ccj</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>ccj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to point out that anyone answering to the description "wee bonny lass" would probably be Scottish rather than Irish :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to point out that anyone answering to the description &#8220;wee bonny lass&#8221; would probably be Scottish rather than Irish :)</p>
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		<title>By: biomedstudent</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>biomedstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha...I died laughing listening to this post and the comments! I'm from ohio - in the southern half (Dayton and Columbus) areas. My father has a southern accent - in fact, I view men with those accents are a bunch of dumb rambling apes. So usually, hearing a strong southern accent, makes me feel as if I'm superior since I speak a "standard" American english. I do so very well.  

It's crazy because I'm actually - NOW - attending the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. And everytime I hear a strong southern accent that usually involves a story going as "....ha...bill I tell u what.."   I just explode into a laughing rage of violence and gore. I dont know what it is, but it is hilarious. My gf down there has a southern accent - but her's makes her hot - not retarded. 

If I come back with a southern accent, I'm going to through myself off a bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha&#8230;I died laughing listening to this post and the comments! I&#8217;m from ohio - in the southern half (Dayton and Columbus) areas. My father has a southern accent - in fact, I view men with those accents are a bunch of dumb rambling apes. So usually, hearing a strong southern accent, makes me feel as if I&#8217;m superior since I speak a &#8220;standard&#8221; American english. I do so very well.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy because I&#8217;m actually - NOW - attending the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. And everytime I hear a strong southern accent that usually involves a story going as &#8220;&#8230;.ha&#8230;bill I tell u what..&#8221;   I just explode into a laughing rage of violence and gore. I dont know what it is, but it is hilarious. My gf down there has a southern accent - but her&#8217;s makes her hot - not retarded. </p>
<p>If I come back with a southern accent, I&#8217;m going to through myself off a bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-1198</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's very interesting that most English actors can get away with doing American accents in movies, but if an american actor does a less than perfect english accent of any sort it is always picked apart by the English...I find this funny because though people think it is easier for English people to do an american accent as opposed to americans doing an english accent, you can usually tell that they are not american.  When the English do an american accent it usually comes off more nasal than an american just because Brits tend to speak using the front of their mouth whereas americans tend to speak more from the back.  So when Brits switch to american dialects, they don't know how to switch it to the back as naturally as an American and thus they usually end up sounding as if they are from Illinois or the New England area.  In all actuality, it is easier for an american to physically switch to an english accent than vice versa (especially southeastern americans.)  It's just that the English publics are more critical about the accents...even if english actors have really horrid american accents, americans (just as a general rule) just don't pay attention or care...it's immediately dismissed.  But I do have to say that Hugh Laurie  he does have a 99% accurate standard american accent...he's an exception to the general outcome ::wink::.  Is there any americans that you nonamericans feel have a very good accent...whether that's english, welsh, irish, new zealand, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s very interesting that most English actors can get away with doing American accents in movies, but if an american actor does a less than perfect english accent of any sort it is always picked apart by the English&#8230;I find this funny because though people think it is easier for English people to do an american accent as opposed to americans doing an english accent, you can usually tell that they are not american.  When the English do an american accent it usually comes off more nasal than an american just because Brits tend to speak using the front of their mouth whereas americans tend to speak more from the back.  So when Brits switch to american dialects, they don&#8217;t know how to switch it to the back as naturally as an American and thus they usually end up sounding as if they are from Illinois or the New England area.  In all actuality, it is easier for an american to physically switch to an english accent than vice versa (especially southeastern americans.)  It&#8217;s just that the English publics are more critical about the accents&#8230;even if english actors have really horrid american accents, americans (just as a general rule) just don&#8217;t pay attention or care&#8230;it&#8217;s immediately dismissed.  But I do have to say that Hugh Laurie  he does have a 99% accurate standard american accent&#8230;he&#8217;s an exception to the general outcome ::wink::.  Is there any americans that you nonamericans feel have a very good accent&#8230;whether that&#8217;s english, welsh, irish, new zealand, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to like the sound of Mandarin or Cantonese when my friends would speak it at Rice.  But now I absolutely hate it.  I think it has to do with the fact that I now live with a very annoying guy from China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to like the sound of Mandarin or Cantonese when my friends would speak it at Rice.  But now I absolutely hate it.  I think it has to do with the fact that I now live with a very annoying guy from China.</p>
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		<title>By: xaosseed</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-360</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 00:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accents. Oooooh. I just spent the evening in a high decible pub with a South African and a Scotsman who thought for a bit I was French. I've had people say I sound like I'm American/went to School in the States/am from Manchester/have a strong/soft Irish accent so this is a topic close to my heart.

I spent a summer ringing all over Ireland debt collecting, and everyone, *everyones* accents got thicker as soon as they figured out why I wanted to talk to them. I count a distinct Donegal, Kerry, Cork, Mayo, North Dublin, South Dublin, Sligo among the ones I can pick out straight away and then theres the other ones I wouldn't recognise off the cuff.  This is *Ireland* which has 3.5M people - i.e. is dinky.

There is huge variety and in general any strong accent makes it tough for everyone else. We (the rest of the World) are generally pretty good at US accents because we've been listening to them since we were small, but then the most complete breakdown in communication I ever saw was me, a guy from Kilkenny and a guy from the Bronx.

If we're talking about seductive accents, then that has been firmly established as a personal taste thing. There are a few accents that have been established as 'allure-killers' - e.g. North Dublin &#38; urban Sligo - but peoples ideas of a nice accent varies hugely, and will also vary with the speaker. The same accent from a broken-nosed pub brawler and that cute brunette in the floaty dress will have  very different impressions. The same 'category' will also vary hugely in impression given the speakers own voice, diction and attitude.

Strangely, Chinese accented English is nothing special for me, but I really like the sound of Madarin being spoken. I have no idea what they're saying, but it sounds nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accents. Oooooh. I just spent the evening in a high decible pub with a South African and a Scotsman who thought for a bit I was French. I&#8217;ve had people say I sound like I&#8217;m American/went to School in the States/am from Manchester/have a strong/soft Irish accent so this is a topic close to my heart.</p>
<p>I spent a summer ringing all over Ireland debt collecting, and everyone, *everyones* accents got thicker as soon as they figured out why I wanted to talk to them. I count a distinct Donegal, Kerry, Cork, Mayo, North Dublin, South Dublin, Sligo among the ones I can pick out straight away and then theres the other ones I wouldn&#8217;t recognise off the cuff.  This is *Ireland* which has 3.5M people - i.e. is dinky.</p>
<p>There is huge variety and in general any strong accent makes it tough for everyone else. We (the rest of the World) are generally pretty good at US accents because we&#8217;ve been listening to them since we were small, but then the most complete breakdown in communication I ever saw was me, a guy from Kilkenny and a guy from the Bronx.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re talking about seductive accents, then that has been firmly established as a personal taste thing. There are a few accents that have been established as &#8216;allure-killers&#8217; - e.g. North Dublin &amp; urban Sligo - but peoples ideas of a nice accent varies hugely, and will also vary with the speaker. The same accent from a broken-nosed pub brawler and that cute brunette in the floaty dress will have  very different impressions. The same &#8216;category&#8217; will also vary hugely in impression given the speakers own voice, diction and attitude.</p>
<p>Strangely, Chinese accented English is nothing special for me, but I really like the sound of Madarin being spoken. I have no idea what they&#8217;re saying, but it sounds nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://langabi.name/blog/2005/06/01/dilberts-got-it-right#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think here in S.A. we have such a range of accents that someone with an Ozzie/British/American accent isn't such a big deal as in the States or U.K. Amongst English-speaking South Africans, for example, you get a huge variety, depending on their background - mostly dependent on where their parents are from (so that covers all of Europe, the U.S. and Asia). I think, in general, we are a little less taken by "seductive" accents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think here in S.A. we have such a range of accents that someone with an Ozzie/British/American accent isn&#8217;t such a big deal as in the States or U.K. Amongst English-speaking South Africans, for example, you get a huge variety, depending on their background - mostly dependent on where their parents are from (so that covers all of Europe, the U.S. and Asia). I think, in general, we are a little less taken by &#8220;seductive&#8221; accents.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I have to revise my original statement somewhat.  I went to see &lt;i&gt;A Prairie Home Companion&lt;/i&gt; at the Hollywood Bowl tonight and was absolutely blown away by Irish singer Karan Casey.  Her voice (both accent and singing voice) was so alluring that I wanted to cry... so, I'll have to add an Irish accent on a wee bonnie lass as being one that I find very sexy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I have to revise my original statement somewhat.  I went to see <i>A Prairie Home Companion</i> at the Hollywood Bowl tonight and was absolutely blown away by Irish singer Karan Casey.  Her voice (both accent and singing voice) was so alluring that I wanted to cry&#8230; so, I&#8217;ll have to add an Irish accent on a wee bonnie lass as being one that I find very sexy.</p>
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